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About Love Systems
THE ORIGINAL AND MOST TRUSTED DATING COACHESLike Dr. Phil said, "Love Systems is giving men the tools to succeed with beautiful women." Love Systems brings together dating coaches from around the world to teach you how to approach women and immediately create attraction with dream girls, how to meet the girl next door, how to get a girlfriend and win the woman of your dreams.
Love Systems (lovesystems.com) has 95 customer reviews on Folks Told, with an average rating of 4.5 out of 5.
Hey guys,
first when i heard about this book i wasn t realy sure if it works.
But just after a few tries this Information what you get here is awsome.
You stop to be afraid and you just do it, cause you know what to do :)
So if you have Problems with the "how" (shall i start or can i get this girl).
Here´s the answere.
Your
Chris
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JD
A Transformative Experience
I went into Super Conference not knowing what to expect. I was blown away by the material, and passion from the instructors to help all of us achieve our true potential. This event is much more than improving your skills with women. It's about re-inventing yourself into the best version of you in all areas of your life.
It's inspiring to hear the instructors stories and see how far they've come in their lives after working through the strategies and material presented at Super Conference. You'll see me there again next year!
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Mitch
Practical, empirically proven
I've studied Love Systems method for nearly 10 years now, starting with their first excellent public product, the Magic Bullets eBook. In my opinion, the company offers easy-to-understand, very common sense, result-oriented, actionable instructions for modern day dating.
One thing I'd like to emphasize is that I see the special quality of this method in being equally respectful to men and women, which is the best approach to making a real, profound improvement to everyone's love life. It is indeed about love, and yes, these are indeed well-structured systems for a thinking man.
What I also find impressive is that the method, or rather, methods - because the system is very fluid and always evolving - work for someone like me, a man in mid-forties, not only for college students etc.
Bravo! A grateful student.
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Mark
Yes, it's worth it.
The forefront of what's being offered here is a training program in order to improve your dating life. But for me, this was a lesson in taking chances. I have a bit of social anxiety, and I'm certain many people who look into these things are also on the shy side. While this is a program designed to meet women, this is also a method to improve confidence overall through awareness. You learn a lot about yourself through your interactions with people. This will help you do that.
There's an unspoken promise that the instructors you'll meet are quite humble. The ones I've had the pleasure of meeting always gave off that calming gentleman's presence that puts you in the mindset of a sophisticated learning experience. They provide a range of social awareness that enables you to handle a variety situations. Now a bootcamp is just as the word implies, you'll be hit hard with a lot of information and pushed into meeting people that night. But the instructors know this and have a manner of easing you into the process that somehow doesn't feel rushed.
I took a bootcamp and an inner game seminar a ways back and am still using their structure as a daily guideline. It keeps you positive and socially active so that you continue to build upon meeting new friends and relationships. You'll learn more than just about dating, you'll learn how to enrich your life. That's attractive.
RG
regular G.
The System Works
I had a great time using the system
Like a lot of people, I got interested in the
system after reading Neil Strauss's "The Game". It was a great read and it stayed on the best seller's list for weeks, deservedly so. After that I read the "Mystery Method" and after that "Rules of the Game".
I am not your typical user. I am 55 years old and happily married FOR A
LONG TIME! TO THE SAME WOMAN! I WANT TO KEEP IT THAT WAY TOO! I have the love of my life. We've been together 35 years and for the vast majority of that time it's been great! Let's be honest with ourselves - there is no way that the little vixen you married is going to show up night after night in your marriage bed for five, ten, twenty years. (Okay maybe five years). People change, women change (the jokes are legion) and men need to change too. Change is hard. You need a plan. Finding a plan is NOT hard! Remember the words of Texas billionaire oilman T. Boone Pickett's daddy – "an idiot with a plan beats a genius without a plan every time".
My son wanted to go on his class trip to Italy. He was in the seventh grade. My wife was a little buggy about it. I suggested we stay in Rome for the week, let the kid take the class trip and then a few days at Carnival up the coast. This allayed her fears and gave us a whole
week together – by ourselves. This is where the plan comes in.
BE A BETTER BOYFRIEND - straight out of the book. I asked about all the things she wanted to see and wanted to do. I used the leading and planning techniques with many trips to YELP. We did stuff she wanted to do, but I lined them up in areas where we had multiple good reviews for eateries. We saw a few sights had a nice lunch did a few more sights, had a nice dinner and ended up back in our room. I made sure it wasn't too late and we weren't too exhausted. It was some of the most romantic time I have spent with my wife. The techniques work, if you bother to use them.
I have chided Savoy that I was going to take the chapter from "The Dangerous Books for Boys" on how to deal w/ girls, the book "How to Talk to Girls" and the first three chapters of "The Mystery Method" and meld it into a book to sell to the fathers of teenage boys.
I got the books from the library, every one. They are out there on e-books and used from Amazon. There is no real reason why you can't get your hands on a copy. Use them! They work!
Thanks
Regular Guy (my board name)
I'd use my real name but my wife is embarrassed
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Tim P.
Improved my Life then found my wife.
The love system program is the step by step system to improve who you are as a person and get more attention from all around you including some attractive ladies. I improved my social circle, my networking skill help me accomplish many of my goals. A year after taking the course I was engaged and have been married for 4 and half years to a amazing woman who is very successful, we bought a house in New Orleans and are living a wonderful life. What the coaches teach you is one on one tools to make you better at all assets of your life. You will gain the confidence of you apply the tools and techniques. This isn't a magic pill you have to do the work. You accelerate 10 times faster from the years of experience the coaches provide. I am glad I invested in the products and programs at love systems. It will give you the results you are looking for and make you an all around better man that will naturally attract want you want in life.
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Daevid L.
Wished I had discovered Love Systems 10 years ago!
My good friend Marie-Anne once told me: "Dave, you have everything a lady wants in a man, and yet, it looks like you're not even aware of it. It doesn't make any sense!"
I have always been oblivious about how to seduce a woman. And I have been craving for so much more all along. In the past, a lot of girls have show interest in me but I was rarely able to bring it up to the next level.
I decided to man up and ask for help from this friend of mine who was getting laid with 3 different women every week. His advice led me to Love Systems, and it turned my life around! I wish I had discovered this community 10 years ago!
With the help of all the material and coaching they provide, I have done incredible personal development. Love Systems is a goldmine of knowledge and wisdom on how to turn an average frustrated chump into a powerful seducer.
This is not about learning pickup lines. It's about acquiring the mindset and beliefs needed to approach women with confidence and conveying your value without coming off needy or fake. I apply the social skills I learned in Love Systems to my everyday life outside the context of courtship.
Reading Magic Bullets should be everyone's step 1. Taking a bootcamp should be the step 2. The instructor sets you on the right path to develop yourself and push yourself beyond your limits.
The instructors teach guys because they love it! And I could really feel that from Cajun during my workshop. These guys have dedicated their life to understanding what makes women tick. They have made all the mistakes and compiled their lessons learned into the material provided by Love Systems so that YOU don't have to go through all of that.
Don't get me wrong, it still requires a lot of personal work to develop confidence with women. The bootcamp will not turn you into a pickup artist, I see it more like a rite of passage into adulthood. It prepares your mind for things you would've never thought would be possible before. Worth every penny!
Reply from Love SystemsOct 26, 2015
Hey David! This is great to hear! Thanks so much for the review. Looking forward to continuing to work together in our Mastermind coaching. - Cajun
JJ
Jimmie J.
Dissatisfied
Anyone else find the fact that on every website where LoveSystems is reviewed --- including this one --- all of the reviews appear in a month-long span? Some of the reviewers down there said that they had taken a bootcamp 5 years ago, some said months ago, and some didn't mention when they took the program. I am not denying that these people might be legitimate customers, but LoveSystems definitely played some part in these reviews all showing up at once. Maybe those former students are now currently working for the company. Maybe LoveSystems reached out to them to make a review knowing that it would be a favorable one. In any event, this is a biased sample.
I actually also took the bootcamp. I was naive about the industry and pickup in general. A few months later I had taken a program with two other companies and purchased another companies one month online video membership for 37 dollars. In retrospect, after having taken all three programs, it was obvious that LoveSystems was the worst, and the worst value by far. one company's product was 300, the online membership was 37, and LoveSystems charged 3k. Pickup is about becoming a cool, socially well adjusted individual. This does not happen in a weekend....and I get it, the bootcamp is supposed to lay a framework for improvement...and in theory that makes sense. But in practice, one night of being pushed into sets will not do anything for you. Going out often along with maybe a little theory will help you get there. As far as actual theory: any and all of the information that I learned on LoveSystems's seminar portion could be found online for free. This company offered me absolutely no proprietary or unique information. The live in field coaching was simply watching instructors approach girls from afar. When you've been doing pickup for awhile you know how to approach, and you know that it is possible to get phone numbers, good reactions etc. by approaching. Therefore, watching people talk from afar is pretty useless. The Lovesystems staff doesn't really do sets with you. I found the in-field portion of the bootcamp to be about as useful and half as fun as going out to the bars with my own friends. The online video monthlong membership from another company gave you all the little intricacies of conversation and things to keep in mind when approaching that I found incredibly helpful. The video seminar provided by the other company gave you extremely in depth analysis on night game interaction.
The reason I am a bit bitter about LoveSystems is I feel like they are a little misrepresentative about what their products will be like. Also, they do things like they have done on this website...namely manipulating reviews. In fact, I had a friend who wrote a review on another medium of the bootcamp having legitimately taken it and having had a bad experience. The owner of LoveSystems came onto the forum and said that the review was a hoax. Even AFTER the student had reached out to the owner and provided him with proof, LoveSystems did not retract their statement. Whenever a review pops up that displays Lovesystems in a negative light, you will always see some comments on it trying to dispute it or poke holes in the review. In fact, this very review was flagged by Lovesystems staff and removed temporarily. They refuse to believe that any review that has anything negative to say about their product is a legitimate one. They always comment saying that they offer a 100% money back guarantee for their products so all a dissatisfied student would have to do is ask for it...but that is the industry standard. Every company in this industry provides a 100% money back guarantee, so wouldn't that mean that every company could use the same logic in their response? Wouldn't that mean that every company could claim every negative review was fake?
My advice to you would be to do a little bit more digging. Scour the internet for information. Hunt the forums for wings, and if you can't find any, just go out alone. Approach, approach, approach. You do not need Lovesystems. If you still feel you need/want coaching, look elsewhere.
Edit: Have you ever wondered why reviews on a bunch of different mediums for Lovesystems are unreasonably high? Well now I know. They actively find ways to get negative reviews removed. This review was once again removed from trust pilot. I then provided proof of purchase and it was restored. I honestly wouldn't be surprised if a lot of the positive reviews were posted by the business itself. I would appreciate it if TrustPilot looked into the positive reviews as well.
Edit #2: there were two other negative reviews posted by others on this page that Lovesystems has removed. Please take the high rating for this business on this page with a big grain of salt.
Edit #3: Yes, I am using an alias. Second, I personally know someone with this name that took class with the name that I am using so it's impossible that you couldn't find a person with my name in your system. I know you cannot DIRECTLY affect TrustPilot reviews, but you can contact TrustPilot to notify of compliance breaking rules and email them asking them to ask for proof for certain reviews. Unsurprisingly, the only two reviews that have been removed were the ones that portrayed LoveSystems in a negative light, none of the other positive reviews were removed even temporarily. I know for a fact that you do actively look for ways to get negative reviews removed. A friend of mine posted a review on Ripoff report about your bootcamp and your CEO came in and claimed that the review was a hoax. After my friend provided proof to the CEO that he was a member of the class, the CEO DID NOT REDACT HIS MESSAGE. Also, I have another acquaintance who experienced something similar on DSR. In my first post, I was not "advertising" for other companies. That implies that I am working for them, which I am not, I was simply providing alternatives that I believed in my mind to be far superior options. I have contacted you guys about my poor experience a couple times and you have done nothing to make amens for it so I am not interested in speaking to you or the company again.
Edit 4: I genuinely appreciate the honest response.
Look, the reason that I chose to take a Lovesystems bootcamp before the programs with your competitors was that the reviews for Lovesystems were considerably higher than that of your competitors. After having taken 3 different programs with three different companies I was shocked to see that the quality was the complete opposite of what the reviews suggested. I began to look more closely at reviews of all three companies over a years time and began to notice a trend. Negative reviews of Lovesystems were removed with a much higher frequency than any of your competitors. I do not buy the fact that you attempt to have reviews removed only if they are advertising a competitor or slanderous in language. The other negative review on this page was not slanderous in language, and did not mention any of your competitors. You wanted to have the review removed only because it was a low rating. You probably emailed TrustPilot and asked the student to provide proof. Some students may have deleted the email that contains the receipt and have no other way of providing proof. Other students may feel that it is not worth their time to go through the charade of having to provide proof, being that there is no benefit to themselves. On the other hand, if no positive reviews are being held to the same level of scrutiny, there will be a disproportionate number of high reviews on any given page. What’s more, is if a student needed to post a positive review, I am sure that they could easily contact Lovesystems and have a copy of the receipt remade. The point of my tenacity in replying to your comments and ensuring that my review is being made public is to give consumers my honest opinion of the situation and to give them perspective on a reason that Lovesystems could have such high ratings.
In terms of free content, I actually don’t see THAT much being provided. In every single one of your blog posts you end up trying to sell product. I actually notice that your competitors release a lot more free content and the free content that I was referring to was that of your competitors.
In terms of suggestions on what to make better: I’d say improve your money back guarantee policy. A lot of your students are taking a pickup bootcamp because they are not assertive. I, personally, wanted my money back after my experience. I found it very uncomfortable to ask the very people who were running the bootcamp for a refund and therefore wanted to go home and ask for it from staff through email. I found that the refund policy was that a student had to ask for it in person, along with several other stipluations. (One being that if a student is late to any portions of the bootcamp, the refund becomes null and void despite the fact that the instructors themselves were late to every single infield and in class session.) If you want to create a fair policy, allow students to contact the company via email if they are unsatisfied. If you really are that confident that your program works then this should not be an issue. Some students would take advantage of this, sure, but students could take advantage of the money back guarantee even with your current system.
Finally, in terms of making amends. I honestly am not interested in any of Lovesystems products at this point. Apart from getting my money back there is really nothing that I want from Lovesystems (Which I was told is impossible at this point). Offering me another product from Lovesystems at this point is akin to a restaurant that you get food poisoning from giving you a voucher for a free meal.
Reply from Love SystemsJan 17, 2016
RESPONSE #1: Hi Jimmie, thank you for taking time to write a review. We appreciate any feedback we receive and always look to give our customers the best experience possible. Since this doesn't seem to be the case so far, would you mind giving us a call or emailing us so we can get a few more details about your experience? Please call us at 800-680-0821 and ask for the marketing team, or email us directly at service@...
RESPONSE #2: Hi Jimmie, we've asked that you contact us, we're unaware of your issue and would like to hear your feedback, if not resolve your issue. We've searched our systems and can't find a customer that matches your name, so we reached out to TrustPilot to ask for your contact info so we can more accurately search our systems (in case you're using an alias) - TrustPilot understandably cannot provide your information, but we still haven't received contact from younor a way to contact you.
To respond to some of your accusations, we cannot affect TrustPilot reviews. They are a trusted third-party platform with a very high reputation. We began working with them a few months ago. Originally your review was removed by them because you were advertising our competitors. They removed you again because you were not a verified customer.
We appreciate all reviews and feedback, good or bad, and take them to heart to continually improve our products. The reviews you've cited have not been removed by Love Systems. We have heard back from customers who've posted negative reviews and were able to not only resolve their issues, but improve our product, and they in turn have updated their reviews.
We invite you again to contact us. You have our full attention, I would like to hear from you personally. Please email us at marketing@... Looking forward to speaking with you. - Josh B, VP Marketing
RESPONSE #3: Hi Jimmie, I've made no claims that your experience was not as valuable as you expected, and that's critical feedback. If you have the time, I would like to hear from you.
What's difficult for me, is you assumptions about how we do business and have handled ourselves. For the most part, you are correct, we do look into every negative review. I don't believe this is unlike any other company's practice in any other industry. We do not attempt to have them removed unless they're advertising a competitor or slanderous in language. We do attempt to reply to everyone who reviews, and to attempt to make contact with negative reviewers. Sometimes we have an opportunity to make amends, but we always receive critical feedback and attempt to improve our products.
Regarding the value of the product, you're right, there is a massive amount of free information - we post a lot of it in our blogs, and even more in our forums, and we're ramping this effort up big time! Ultimately it is the reputation of a business and the loyalty of its customers that will prove its success or failure. Love Systems has been in business ten years. We're always doing our best to evolve and add value to our students.
Now, again, I invite you to contact me personally. It's obvious you've had a bad experience and are very upset, but it's also obvious that you're well written, intelligent, and have done your research and thought this through. You deserve to be heard, and I hope we deserve a chance to make amends. Whatever your experience has been in attempting to make contact in the past, please put those feeling aside and decide whether it might be worth your time to give us a chance. - Joah B, VP Marketing