Reply from Scaling With SystemsFeb 16, 2023
Hey “Mike”,
I am about 99.99% sure this is Ryan trying to use an alias because you are embarrassed of this review considering how far it is from the truth.
Let me simply say that I am sorry that you feel this way.
For anyone that is reading this, we have documented proof from Ryan that we had a client acquisition system up and running that we built them, bringing them in $30 booked appointments, of which they had closed 3/4 for a $4,000 program. This was at a roughly 28x-32x return on ad spend.
Feel free to email us at “[email protected]” and I can show you clips of the recorded calls and him sending us Slack messages stating this.
That was within 7 days of getting it launched.
The reason he didn’t see a full return on investment was because they disappeared in the middle of us working together for months with no response.
Then when they came back it would take a month just to get them to take simple steps that we couldn’t do for them, like getting an ad filmed (that we scripted).
Unfortunately, Ryan was all over the place, wanting to do Youtube Ads, Facebook Ads, YouTube Organic, Low Ticket Funnels, Call Funnels, Recurring Memberships, etc.
Remember, this is all while they literally haven’t sold one person into their program, but this is just a simple taste of how “all over the place they were” and my full time job was trying to get them to focus one just one thing, which was exhausting.
Finally when we did get one thing launched because I refused to do anything else until we were able to make progress it actually worked and they started closing deals at a 28x-32x return on ad spend.
And instead of celebrating or saying “thank you”, Ryan complained that he wanted to get a low ticket funnel up and running.
That was when I knew it was a lost cause.
We have over 130 active, incredibly happy clients and I can safely say that Ryan took up more support than all of them combined and he was incredibly disrespectful to me and my entire team, sending us messages at 1am and sending messages to team members that weren’t even working with him just to complain.
In 1,300+ clients served in the last 3.5 years Ryan was the most disrespectful, unappreciative, and unwilling to compromise client I’ve ever worked with.
If there was a website to recommend business owners not to work with clients I would recommend nobody works with Ryan.
We are client obsessed and for every other client we work to make it right, but I wont' have myself and my team be disrespected, if you're a business owner you understand these types of clients.
Ravi Abuvala
Scaling With Systems
p.s. I actually have a lot of respect for his dad, Dave, who Ryan works for, but Ryan was our main point of contact for his dad’s business.
p.s.s. If you are a potential Scaling With Systems client and you want to verify these claims I’ve made please email “[email protected]” and we can send you a google drive folder of the zoom call recording clips as well as the screenshots from his messages.